Access Music User Forum

Virus has weak oscillators and takes a lot of effort to make it sound big....the routing flexibility. is great .The first 4 filters i think are great. The Virus concept is great and huge with an enormous flexibility. But why the same weak and ultra thin oscillators ?.. In my own opinion i think Virus needs more oscillators to fill up the weakest gape A new additional set of huge fat oscillators will be just perfect . For example Clavia NL2x posses powerful oscillators and it sounds good with no effects or tricking. Let's talk about oscillators .The weakest part . Something is very unclear . Sorry i don;t want to offend this company or some users . I'm just unhappy with Ti oscillators Maybe for this reason when i try to emulate the 80's famous synth sounds (Chromeo style) TI sounds weak nothing like the Chromeo sounds. The sound don't have the same punch and authenticity compared to the originals . I think oscillators are the biggest problem . The TI oscillators are not like Juno, Jupiter or MS-50 oscillators . So a thin oscillator will result in a compromised emulation

why are you asking ?? what do you think about Virus hypersaw ?

Quoted from "Shesh"

I think it's your skills that are weak.

Quoted from "bagpula"

takes a lot of effort to make it sound big....

This attitude might also be a problem if you'd prefer not to use presets.

I don't mean to be rude but I pretty much knew how to use the Virus before I owned one.

Having had a look at your previous posts I think you need to get better acquainted with the manual.

Read the Howard Scarr tutorial if it came with your Virus, otherwise download it.

If you can't make the Virus rock it's a user error.

BTW, over 95% of the patches I make use only the classic oscillators. There's nothing wrong with them.

is not necessary to become offended .. i'm very skilled....

I hardly use any of the sounds built-in to the Virus because I don't make trance or techno. Most of what I do is emulate classic, wobbly analog synths (a la Chromeo). The Virus is so good at this I never need to turn on my actual analog synth much anymore, and I'd rather bring the Virus on the road than a real analog. So "weak" is not the right term (it's also a loaded term, that's why you're getting negative reaction). The oscillators are very authentic and very analog sounding.

What you need to do to get your sounds more classic- and full-sounding is make judicious use of Osc 1 & 2 balancing, slight detuning, throw some AnaKeys modulation into your matrix, and get busy with the Character and subtle Distortion. Using these I can replicate sounds on my analog synth exactly. A sawtooth or whatever oscillator (not incl. the hypersaw) that sounds "strong" right from the get-go without any sculpting sounds fake.

Quoted from "Suges"

I hardly use any of the sounds built-in to the Virus because I don't make trance or techno. Most of what I do is emulate classic, wobbly analog synths (a la Chromeo). The Virus is so good at this I never need to turn on my actual analog synth much anymore, and I'd rather bring the Virus on the road than a real analog. So "weak" is not the right term (it's also a loaded term, that's why you're getting negative reaction). The oscillators are very authentic and very analog sounding.

What you need to do to get your sounds more classic- and full-sounding is make judicious use of Osc 1 & 2 balancing, slight detuning, throw some AnaKeys modulation into your matrix, and get busy with the Character and subtle Distortion. Using these I can replicate sounds on my analog synth exactly. A sawtooth or whatever oscillator (not incl. the hypersaw) that sounds "strong" right from the get-go without any sculpting sounds fake.

Nice !.Please can you share a few of you're Chromeo presets ? . I'm a good sound designer but no one is perfect .I know exactly how to program modern trance house sounds . Maybe i miss something when i try to replicate the Chromeo sounds

Quoted from "bagpula"

Quoted from "Suges"

I hardly use any of the sounds built-in to the Virus because I don't make trance or techno. Most of what I do is emulate classic, wobbly analog synths (a la Chromeo). The Virus is so good at this I never need to turn on my actual analog synth much anymore, and I'd rather bring the Virus on the road than a real analog. So "weak" is not the right term (it's also a loaded term, that's why you're getting negative reaction). The oscillators are very authentic and very analog sounding.

What you need to do to get your sounds more classic- and full-sounding is make judicious use of Osc 1 & 2 balancing, slight detuning, throw some AnaKeys modulation into your matrix, and get busy with the Character and subtle Distortion. Using these I can replicate sounds on my analog synth exactly. A sawtooth or whatever oscillator (not incl. the hypersaw) that sounds "strong" right from the get-go without any sculpting sounds fake.

Nice !.Please can you share a few of you're Chromeo presets ? . I'm a good sound designer but no one is perfect .I know exactly how to program modern trance house sounds . Maybe i miss something when i try to replicate the Chromeo sounds

Sure here's a "disco punk" synth bass I'm using in a song right now. Not exactly 80s cheese, more like 80s grit. I think of sounds in the context of what genre they'd be good for, not what synth they come from, so I don't exactly know what synth this sounds like. But it is a copy of a stock bass sound in my Andromeda. Anyways it shows off the techniques I was telling you about:

http://www.suges.com/virus/SugesPunkDiscoBass.zip

Here's a snip from the song so you can hear the sound in context:

http://www.suges.com/virus/DPiscoTest2.mp3

Quoted from "Suges"

Quoted from "bagpula"

Quoted from "Suges"

I hardly use any of the sounds built-in to the Virus because I don't make trance or techno. Most of what I do is emulate classic, wobbly analog synths (a la Chromeo). The Virus is so good at this I never need to turn on my actual analog synth much anymore, and I'd rather bring the Virus on the road than a real analog. So "weak" is not the right term (it's also a loaded term, that's why you're getting negative reaction). The oscillators are very authentic and very analog sounding.

What you need to do to get your sounds more classic- and full-sounding is make judicious use of Osc 1 & 2 balancing, slight detuning, throw some AnaKeys modulation into your matrix, and get busy with the Character and subtle Distortion. Using these I can replicate sounds on my analog synth exactly. A sawtooth or whatever oscillator (not incl. the hypersaw) that sounds "strong" right from the get-go without any sculpting sounds fake.

Nice !.Please can you share a few of you're Chromeo presets ? . I'm a good sound designer but no one is perfect .I know exactly how to program modern trance house sounds . Maybe i miss something when i try to replicate the Chromeo sounds

Sure here's a "disco punk" synth bass I'm using in a song right now. Not exactly 80s cheese, more like 80s grit. I think of sounds in the context of what genre they'd be good for, not what synth they come from, so I don't exactly know what synth this sounds like. But it is a copy of a stock bass sound in my Andromeda. Anyways it shows off the techniques I was telling you about:

http://www.suges.com/virus/SugesPunkDiscoBass.zip

Here's a snip from the song so you can hear the sound in context:

http://www.suges.com/virus/DPiscoTest2.mp3

thks i really like that sound . But where is the preset ??. You share only the mp3 ?. I just want that patch loaded in my Ti to convince my self . This synth is huge and takes time to know every trick .I'm learning every day . So this synth is capable to emulate exactly every Moog or ARP sound imaginable . Please share that patch with us . A lot of Virus users think that Virus is perfect only for modern house trance sounds and not so perect for 80's emulations. I can't wait to load that patch )) . Why have you posted an Andromeda demmo ?. . When i try to emulate some 80's arps for me Ti sounds good but nothing like the original , because the sound becomes a little trance and digital. Maybe that's why you have posted an Andromeda demmo and there is no Virus Ti patch because of course that demmo is you're Andromeda .....