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Saturday, August 28th 2010, 5:36pm

some issues while working with cubase (5.5)... any hints?

Hello, I want to report some issues regarding the virus TI2 used in cubase5.5.

This is what i´m using.
virus ti2 polar
asus p7p 55d mb
i5 750 processor
windows 7 64 bit
cubase 5.5

maybe i´m doing things wrong, i´m not certain, i made a long pause in the sequencer, vst, synth domain
and i dont know cubase very well (i came from logic..) :)

the virus currently works as soundcard in my system.

1) when working on a track where virus is playing lets say about 5 to 6 different parts after a while it plays
the notes of one sound very short as if one had shorten the decay-times and set sustain to zero.
Also while playing a melo with some lfo mod on cuttof using TWIN-MODE the left channel plays randomly notes on a
very high cutoff when it should be very low...

2) there are relatively often midi note hangups while working with cubase. Sometimes this even starts when cubase
is not running, while i´m eating, making a coffee or something like that...

Until now i feel the overall behaviour of this "total integration" thing is a little bit strange...
maybe i need to get used to it, or this is all about the 64 bit thing?
(My good old reaktor-plugin for example is practically not usable in cubase, crashes it completely after a while. ;( )

Anyone with similar experiences and/or some hints about it?

Cheers
prokaion
virus ti2 polar
asus p7p 55d mb
i5 750 processor
windows 7 64 bit
cubase 5.5 32 bit

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Sunday, August 29th 2010, 12:23am

i have a personal question
does your virus work as 128 buffer ?
DAW: Cubase 6.5.4 (64 Bit)
OS:Windows 7 (64 Bit) And OSX 10.7.5
Virus TI OS:4.5.3
---------------------------
Synth : Virus Ti Desktop,Virus Ti Snow,Nord Stage ex88,Roland Mc-909
PC : Core i7 870 ,8.0 GB Ram
Mac : Macbook Pro Mid 2012 ,Core i7 ,8GB Ram

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Sunday, August 29th 2010, 3:16am

Ährm... what?
Personal question?

Äh, no, its running currently on 256 buffer size...
128 i did not try until now. I tried a higher one. That didnt work... ;)
Should i try 128?
virus ti2 polar
asus p7p 55d mb
i5 750 processor
windows 7 64 bit
cubase 5.5 32 bit

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Sunday, August 29th 2010, 2:58pm

yes please try select 128 buffer
and tell me will virus work correctly on 128 buffer
DAW: Cubase 6.5.4 (64 Bit)
OS:Windows 7 (64 Bit) And OSX 10.7.5
Virus TI OS:4.5.3
---------------------------
Synth : Virus Ti Desktop,Virus Ti Snow,Nord Stage ex88,Roland Mc-909
PC : Core i7 870 ,8.0 GB Ram
Mac : Macbook Pro Mid 2012 ,Core i7 ,8GB Ram

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Sunday, August 29th 2010, 5:07pm

did 128 + safety buffer option...
it will take a while to see if something has changed..

But-
the strange behaviour of the Twin-mode mentioned earlier is still there, when i switch twin mode of, cutoff behaviour is as expected, but in twin mode...hm still strange!

P.S. 128 buffer without safety buffer doesnt work. cubase tries to start and stops, crackles and thats it... :|
btw: how is the latency thing and cpu-load if one has a nice soundcard and doesnt need to use the virus as soundcard?
virus ti2 polar
asus p7p 55d mb
i5 750 processor
windows 7 64 bit
cubase 5.5 32 bit

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "prokaion" (Aug 29th 2010, 5:17pm)


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Monday, August 30th 2010, 7:54am

don't worry my friend it's the problem with asus intel P55 AND H55 AND H57 chipest Series and maybe other board with these chipiset...
BTW ,i had the same problem with my H57d-evo mainboard and i got a dedicated usb pci card
and then sync and 128 buffer got work fine...
i suggest you to buy a dedicated usb pci card and after install check your virus bandwidth which is included on universal serial buss controller ,your bandwidth should be 73%

Notice: i tested mbox pro2 usb and m-audio usb and they had the same buffer problem with internal usb as well..
DAW: Cubase 6.5.4 (64 Bit)
OS:Windows 7 (64 Bit) And OSX 10.7.5
Virus TI OS:4.5.3
---------------------------
Synth : Virus Ti Desktop,Virus Ti Snow,Nord Stage ex88,Roland Mc-909
PC : Core i7 870 ,8.0 GB Ram
Mac : Macbook Pro Mid 2012 ,Core i7 ,8GB Ram

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Monday, August 30th 2010, 2:42pm

oh, no... is that true?
Any chance that this might be cured by a bios update in the future?
what do you mean exactly with dedicated usb pci card?
Is this to overgo the onboard usb? how expensive is this?
virus ti2 polar
asus p7p 55d mb
i5 750 processor
windows 7 64 bit
cubase 5.5 32 bit

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Monday, August 30th 2010, 5:27pm

i don't think so updating bios will make a differences
USB pci card you have to look this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as…lkin-_-15108012


Belkin and Texas instrument have good chipset.
and then you have to install on your one of pci slot in your mother board
DAW: Cubase 6.5.4 (64 Bit)
OS:Windows 7 (64 Bit) And OSX 10.7.5
Virus TI OS:4.5.3
---------------------------
Synth : Virus Ti Desktop,Virus Ti Snow,Nord Stage ex88,Roland Mc-909
PC : Core i7 870 ,8.0 GB Ram
Mac : Macbook Pro Mid 2012 ,Core i7 ,8GB Ram

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Tuesday, August 31st 2010, 7:20pm

first, let me thank you for your advice! :)

today i bought an usb pci-card. I was a bit in doubt if pci or pci-express since the pci-bus just runs on that good old 33Mhz. Wouldnt that be a bottleneck?
But the seller even did not had a PCIe card so i tried simple pci. Everything was like you said. I can now run the pure 128 buffer-size(but this eats my cpu in the song... :S ), the used bandwith showed 73%.
the issue with twin mode might be also solved (have to surveill it for a while). The thing is one has to put the lfo-phase in unison in lfo to zero (middle) AND press the mono button on the lfo which modulates the filter. Complicated stuff.. sometimes i wish to have a more in depth documentation about the inner life of the virus... ;) what for example does the filter link button mean? is it not the same as cutoff link? have to figure it out still. its not even mentioned in the reference manual....

ok, thank you a lot again
kind regards
prokaion
virus ti2 polar
asus p7p 55d mb
i5 750 processor
windows 7 64 bit
cubase 5.5 32 bit

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Wednesday, September 1st 2010, 11:28pm

you welcome my friend
i'm glad its better now

filter link it does mean which you link filter1+filter2
when you click and drag moving the center of each filter the next one change automatically
DAW: Cubase 6.5.4 (64 Bit)
OS:Windows 7 (64 Bit) And OSX 10.7.5
Virus TI OS:4.5.3
---------------------------
Synth : Virus Ti Desktop,Virus Ti Snow,Nord Stage ex88,Roland Mc-909
PC : Core i7 870 ,8.0 GB Ram
Mac : Macbook Pro Mid 2012 ,Core i7 ,8GB Ram