Automation problems recording jam with virus ti keyboard in Ableton

    I wonder if you guys could help me with this. What I want to be able to
    do is mess around on the virus, tweak
    automation, and have everything I do recorded in Ableton as either midi
    or automation so I can go back and edit it later.


    Now as far as I see it there are two ways to go here


    1.
    Sequencer mode. Would be the best option, but ableton only records
    parameters that have already been registered for automation. That's a
    bit of a game killer. Is there a workaround - a template or script or
    something? Or has it been fixed in Ableton 9 (I'm still on 8 )?


    2.
    Single mode (& presumably if I got this to work I could get multi
    to work too). This succeeds in recording all automation as midi CCs but
    with the disadvantage that initial state of those CCs is not recorded.
    So if you modify a parameter, when it comes to playback, you have lost
    the initial value. Is there a workaround for this - without knowing in
    advance which CCs you will modify - like a button to send all current CC
    values at once? Or an option to do so every time a patch is loaded?


    Any help much appreciated.

    Hi bob, thank you for the reply.


    (1) Unfortunately, manually adding controls to the automation list isn't going to work for me as I don't know in advance which I'll use. :(
    (2) do you mean all 128 patches or just one?

    Re. (1) if your DAW supports VST3, the VST3 version of VC will expose all of the Virus's available automation destinations.
    Re. (2), The edit buffer contains only the currently loaded patch, so just one patch. The word bank is used in a different context here: each patch is made out of several banks of parameters, of which you can dump bank A as CC-s (and bank B as note-aftertouch if your DAW supports it).

    hey psydeshow,




    maybe this will help, it's along and boring video that i made....and i was drunk LOL but hey ....i think that it will help you!



    i've edit the automations but you can record them also.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkAvFPWchvA



    and I got the idea to work like this, when I had seen this workflow



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS9Kh2NwjQQ



    this video's should do the trick to work with ableton and the virus,


    or looking good on youtube, you will definitely find a video that help!


    success

    Hey guitarie


    thanks for your response, but, can you tell me whether you are answering my question (1) or (2) above and if so, at which point during the 45 minute video you deal with this issue (surely it's not all about that).


    Cheers

    shit i was again drunk hehehe....read it again wrong!!!! :wacko:
    but if you buy a midi controller with more knobs and link your virus to them...you can leave them on the position that they are set.
    I don't know an other way.
    it's an virtual analog not an analog that remains the value of the buttons on position.
    I hope I have now read correctly.

    I'm afraid you didn't, but don't worry, flabberbob is thinking along the right lines. Unfortunately from what he says it sounds like there is no simple way to do this in Ableton. :( Maybe time to get into cubase! Unless there is a VST3 M4L wrapper or something.