Ummet Ozcan Lead

eligreenmusic · 15. November 2015

Hey all!

Just bought a Virus TI Desktop after hearing Ummet, Showtek, SvD, etc. rave about it and I have to say I'm absolutely blown away! I usually try to recreate sounds via Sylenth1 and often times can get pretty close, but with the Virus it's just a few clicks away and BANG! you get a huge, professional sound in one or two layers.

Anyways, right now I'm trying to recreate the lead used in Overdrive Pt. 2-- Ummet Ozcan & Calvin Harris (found here at 0:14):

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I've made a pretty similar sound in Sylenth1 using about three layers but for the life of me I cannot get anywhere close with the Virus. I'm thinking it's a band-passed saw mixed with a hypersaw (and some pitch mod) but can't seem to get the right BP filter setttings.

Thoughts?

EvilGus · 15. November 2015

Something similar is probably in his soundset for the TI, I'll have a listen in the next day or so and let you know.

EG

EvilGus · 17. November 2015

Yep, there's a patch called Scream2 UO, in his soundset, that's exactly the same. Actually, most of the sounds in that soundset are awesome, I wouldn't hesitate to buy it.

P.S: Looks like sawtooth mixed with a Grain Complex wavetable wave, plus another wave for Osc 3, plus unison mode. And various other tweaks.

Cheers,

EG

eligreenmusic · 17. November 2015

I'm honestly really surprised! That came out in '09 or '10 I think, I wasn't sure if the sounds were going to be "up-to-date" enough for the $50 cost.

I'll have to check it out,
-E

eligreenmusic · 17. November 2015

I tried the Scream 2 lead from the Ummet soundset but it doesn't seem to be that close? Maybe it's the additional processing.

I tried using a zero-rate phaser and band-pass filter but no luck....

-E

EvilGus · 18. November 2015

Ok, on another listen, I can hear a few differences. Have you checked out SqrLead as well? It's around patch 15 in the set. That sounds closer to me, now, but the low frequencies have been filtered out and the top-end opened up a bit, in the song. Could be some portamento added too, to get the glide down to the lower note in the phrase.

EG

eligreenmusic · 18. November 2015

Here are some pics of the kind of filter I'm after, but can't seem to get on the Virus

EvilGus · 18. November 2015

Are you just talking about the lead sound from 0:14, or when the same sound is more effected, a bit later on? Its the same basic patch, but the filter is modulated by an LFO. Could be multiple filters and LFOs, of course.

EG

eligreenmusic · 18. November 2015

Yes the sound at 0:14. I don't hear any difference in the sound except when it goes through the high-cut for the build.

-E

eligreenmusic · 20. Juli 2016

Bump

Sebastian · 20. Juli 2016

Did you check here ?

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eligreenmusic · 21. Juli 2016

From the video provided I did not hear the sound I'm looking for. Does seem like a great pack though, I definitely had it in mind to help me with my sound design!

I think the biggest hindrance is just how different the filters are on Sylenth1 vs. Virus Ti, particularly the band-pass filter. Sylenth1's seems to be a bit wider whereas the Virus' is so narrow it's almost unusable IMHO. It may be best to just use a high-cut/low-cut filter with rectifier saturation and sine-fold distortion (via the FX 1 tab). Another option is a band-pass combined with a band-cut...

-E

Sebastian · 22. Juli 2016

Anthem Vol.2 will incl similar sounding patch.
You should remember that there are FX ( tweaks ) on the channel as well.
Tweaking the sound is just 70 % of the final result for most of the examples.

mitchiemasha · 24. Juli 2016

Zitat von eligreenmusic

I think the biggest hindrance is just how different the filters are on Sylenth1 vs. Virus Ti, particularly the band-pass filter.

Have you tried the filter in the frequency shifter section? You could also make your own band pass using both filters.

eligreenmusic · 25. Juli 2016

In regards to the pitch warble, I used the first LFO in the LFO tab which I think is much more readily made for that kind of stuff.

While I did try using a combo low-pass/high-pass, I think the closest I got thus far has been with a combination of a medium resonance high-pass fitler and a band-pass filter with sine-fold distortion and treble boost.

I'll try and post some examples tonight,

-E

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