It's kinda laughable now.
I've almost retired my Virus Ti. Very rarely turn it on now. Used to be my main work-horse.
Posts by ChrisCabbage
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I’m not using USB when using HCvirus so it can’t be related to USB midi.. I also don’t know how you can say the latency is better, it’s exactly the same as with the plugin using the analog outputs..
And may I ask how you are managing patches in your songs? Can you save a song with HCvirus in it and have it load it up the song’s patches automatically when opening?
I can say the jitter is better using the plug-in with audio via USB, by looking at the timing of audio events in my DAW.
The TI plug-in, with USB audio is usually pretty much bang on the start of the bar, for example. When using the external instruments mechanisms in Cubase and Ableton, it's more variable. Obviously, that's not possible with Catalina.
I can say. the latency is better, when not using the plug-in with USB audio, because the latency between hitting a note on my keyboard and the audio being triggered is noticeable when using the plug-in. It's improved when using live mode, but then the timing of other parts gets thrown out of whack in terms of timing/jitter.
Using MI, you're essentially using your Virus as an external instrument.
I don't currently use the plug-in to reload the settings. I use it purely as an editor. When the new version lands, hopefully that and the librarian functionality will be improved. -
Mystery Islands Music is supposed to released a new Virus editor soon.
https://www.mysteryislands-mus…librarian-v2-coming-soon/
That wouldn't solve Access' "total integration" fail, but I'll give it a try for sure as soon as it's available to check timing and stability issues skittb123 mentioned.
Many thanks JetStarfire for this info
It kinda works as-is, but it's a bit buggy. What I really want from it, is the capability to load from .mid bank files. I have a load of presets I've worked on over the years, which are saved on my Mac.
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Was about to order my third virus, but then I saw that Access was going to discontinue support for their software ? Is this the end of Virus? Are new Virus on the way?
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serious question: are there ANY plans or further developments for Ti to at least make work again as it's supposed to? We'll be coming up to almost a year now and still no solution. Has R&D stopped due to Covid19?
The lack of comms. from Access is really not good. I've completely given up with USB audio though. Adds too much latency. All I want, is an editor! Not the first time I've said it, just on this thread.
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First you install the free VM manager https://www.virtualbox.org/ or VMWare, install Windows 7 or something similar in it, install the Virus software there.
That would suck resources (RAM and CPU) way too much for my liking.
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The jitter isn't perfect, or as good as the plug-in - but it's certainly not audible. ...and it may be more related to USB MIDI jitter.
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Ah yeah. That's a complete non-starter. Not a method which works at all.
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Yes, I'm on Catalina. Mystery Islands isn't *officially* compatible yet, but I'm using it without problems.
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I'm not seeing anything like that. How is everything connected Virus-wise?
I'm running my Ti, connected via USB to a Mac. Then SPDIF to an RME Multiface. Also using Mystery Islands editor.
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I think I'm pretty-much done with USB audio now anyhow. Too many stability and latency issues. I just want a good editor for the Virus. Waiting for Mystery Islands to finish the update for Catalina.
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Mojave is the last working platform. We're all waiting for Catalina drivers...
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I'm not a coder myself but from what I've gathered is that because the Virus TI chips are very old, they only support low level ''machine'' code.
Since most modern chipsets support higher level code languages like C++ It's probably very hard to find an old school programmers that can do low level coding, and if there are, they're probably quite expensive. So maybe Access isn't willing to spend as much, but publicly they don't want to burn the bridge just yet since that will hurt the sales.
The driver is for the Mac side, not the TI side.
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For info (since it's come up several times now), Elektron's Overbridge v2 is now out of beta. There's now an official release. So, it's no longer permanently in beta.
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Doesn't work in Catalina.
Seems to work OK for me.
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I've had to take a different tack for now. For legacy projects and transferring patches), I've installed Mojave dual-booting. Then, I just have a cut-down set of plug-ins for those projects. No need to install Cubase on the Mojave volume, since it can be called from the main Catalina volume with an alias.
Then I'm using the Mystery Islands plug-in for new projects. It's not 100% stable though. It's caused a few crashes.
Since I can't easily get multiple Virus outputs working, I'm limiting Virus to mid and high frequency patches on a single pair of outputs. For bass, I'm using other synths.
...but obvs., I'd really like the Virus plug-in working on Catalina - as soon as we can have it! -
I must admit, I'm very surprised that just by renaming the .driver & .plugin files that the usb-audio files work!
They don't - on Catalina. Someone might have some luck hacking this, but it's not as easy as renaming files and directories I'm afraid.
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In HAL folder, change name of new driver to Virus driver. Copy name, delete old package, paste to rename new. Repeat for .driver and .plugin.
*cough* Apparently Elektron use the same driver, in case we want to compare and contrast *cough*
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I wouldn't bet on it. I think it's more likely someone from the Virus Community finds a DIY solution, making use of Ploytec's new driver, cos as far as Access is concerned, the TI is dead.
I don't think it's that easy. The driver on the Ploytec site is only a demo driver and audio is disrupted at intervals. Their driver will need packaging with the Access system.
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That's awesome! Let's hope Access has the manpower to finally implement it! Don't get your hopes up though.. because that job Vacancy is still open.. https://www.virus.info/page/re…do/Job_Opportunities.html
Maybe they'll find a contractor to do the work?
Should be something someone could do at home, whilst in lock-down (depending on being able to have access to any necessary dev kit).
