I am considering buying a newer Virus (Ti Polar or Darkstar) and I just noticed this picture on the site:
It is an Apple computer :). Could this mean that the Total Integration software will work on the latest MacOS versions soon? Otherwise I will consider the Mystery Islands version that seems to be a good alternative.
That's a very old iMac. And no. I would not count on it. Just get VirusHC or CTRLR & never look back.
Has anyone been able to get the Mystery Island software to work on the new M1/Big Sur? I dowloaded the trial and it doesn't seem to load properly into the DAW.
Works totally fine. I've been using it on my M1 Mac mini since day one.
Do you remember what library is missing?
You're supposed to use `/etc/synthetic.conf` to set up symlinks for items in the root directory
I added that as an issue to track on the VirusTI-ButMaintained GitHub repository.
I started that and the VirusTIHackers Discord last night. Hoping to get some move devs together on this. I think we can hack it with our collective thinkmeat. Need to make a separate post for it and try to get some visibility. Please link dump those wherever relevant
If you subscribe to that issue on GitHub it'll ping you when there's activity (closed, new comments). Right now I can't test this because I don't have Big Sur (or an M1)
Tried it out again today. The current version of Logic Pro (10.7.3) will simply tell you it'll only take Audio Unit Version 3 plugins during validation, so that will never work, but today I found an old backup of Logic Pro X 10.5.1, which amazingly still runs fine on my M1.
This is what the validation report says:
validating Audio Unit Virus TI by Access:
AU Validation Tool
Copyright 2003-2019, Apple Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Specify -h (-help) for command options
VALIDATING AUDIO UNIT: 'aumu' - 'VCP ' - 'AccS'
Manufacturer String: Access
AudioUnit Name: Virus TI
Component Version: 5.1.7 (0x50107)
* * PASS
TESTING OPEN TIMES:
2022-04-03 17:49:46.978 auvaltool[6536:250581] Error loading /Library/Application Support/Access Music/Virus TI/Common/Virus Control.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Virus Control: dlopen(/Library/Application Support/Access Music/Virus TI/Common/Virus Control.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Virus Control, 0x0106): Symbol not found: _AudioHardwareClaimAudioDeviceID
Referenced from: /Library/Application Support/Access Music/Virus TI/Common/libVirusUSB.dylib
Expected in: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreAudio.framework/Versions/A/CoreAudio
Time to open AudioUnit: 6.666 ms
validation result: crashed validation
I've checked and the files inside /Library/Application Support/Access Music/Virus TI/ are actually there so I am not sure why it can't open these files..
The CoreAudio folder in /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreAudio.framework/Versions/A/CoreAudio does not exist.
This is to be expected since Apple has closed off the System folder since macOS Big Sur.. I tried disabling SIP and manually adding the file but it's not possible. Maybe if I install MacOS on an external drive I can.
The Virus Control plugin is available as VST3 for several years now. Maybe you haven’t installed it or disabled it in Cubase.
My point which you seemed to have missed completely is that there's really no point in beating this dead horse. Even if you magically get it to work on say Catalina or Big Sur for Intel (forget about M1), this is only temporary since Apple has now moved on. All I say is don't wait for a solution if you actually depend on your Virus in your productions. If not, you can always switch to another soft synth.
But hey, do you own an M1 Mac? You are totally welcome to try and post your results. Which would actually be more helpful to the community.
And to answer your question, yes, I have and I have. On MacOS Big Sur Cubase actually still enabled the VST3 version by default but it would crash Cubase on open. On MacOS Monterey it won't even recognize it as a plugin even though it's still in the VST 3 folder.
Hi Skitbb123 - Thank you for sharing that great news. Does it mean that I now csn buy mystery island editor and then connect with usb for midi and audio for virus ti2?
You will need an audio/midi interface.
Update: MacOS 12.3 now recognizes the Virus TI as an external sound card. That means Audio through USB in MacOS will work flawlessly.
For those already getting their hopes up I am sorry to enlighten you.
The plugin will not work on Logic Pro, since Apple has now moved on to Audio Unit version 3 and the Virus TI plugin is an AU version 2 plugin.
That means no amount of clever hacking will make this ever work.
Cubase 10.5 to Cubase 12 still blacklist the plugins as well for unknown reasons even though they have not started their VST2 obsoletion, although next year they will. Now not only the driver, but even the software and plugin is too old to run on MacOS.
if you actually depend on your Virus for your productions my advice stays the same: just get yourself a good midi editor which auto-saves the plugin state per project. I am not sponsored by Mystery Islands, but at the moment VirusHC really is the best solution. There are some other midi editors out there such as CTRLR, but your milage may vary. Other solutions such as virtualizing or running the Virus through an older PC/Mac may work, but are really too complicated for a fast workflow you can rely on.
While I was downloading the latest drivers for my audio interface on the UAD website, I read their tips how to get their software running on M1 chips.
I hope this could also solve the Audio/USB issue with the total integration on the virus TIs on latest Mac OSX with or without M1!?
Has anyone already tested their recommended setting changes in Recovery mode to get Virus running audio via USB on latest OSX!?
Actually one of the first things I tested when I got my M1 Mac in March last year.. Also came across that link.. unfortunately the plugin still crashes during validation because of some (system) library reference that doesn't exist on MacOS Big Sur and later.. Since the library and system folders are completely non-writable even with SIP turned off there's no way to get around that..
Update: V3 is finally recognized as a different plugin by Logic Pro. This way I still open my older projects. It's more stable as well! I now use V3 on the daily.
I am still trying to use my Virus TI on a new macbook pro 16 with Monterey. I bought the Virus HE plugin, I have the audio from the Virus going into my Universal Audio Interface. I have 5.1.7 installed on the virus and can't see the Virus TI Midi or Synth options in Live 11.1 beta preferences.
Any ideas? I feel that if I can get that to show up then the Virus will be connected and should be able to use?
As long as your DAW sees the MIDI in and OUT of your midi interface it's fine. It doesn't have to ''know'' what synth you have connected.
Not compatible. Get a proper audio/midi interface and take a look at Mystery Island's VirusHC.
Maybe not for you. But using classic MIDI cables introduces pretty significant timing inaccuracies, especially when playing back sequences for multiple parts.
Original MIDI is very slow and every chord is actually an arpeggio. With sample based sounds (e.g. drums) you can hear the phase shifts and sometimes even a flams depending on the number of notes being played simultaneously.
hmm. What sequencer are you using?
I use Logic Pro X, have my buffer set to 512 samples, which is around 18 ms and I always pre delay my midi channels to -18ms. Midi is always spot on. And believe me, I've did some extended testing. Of course the Virus can get a bit sloppy when running super maxed out patches (I'm talking 8 x unison + 2 maxed out hypersaws) but this has nothing to do with the actual midi signal..
The latest version (december 11 release) now finally loads on the M1 without needing Rosetta!
My main concern right now is that it does not load patches from old projects using version 2.0. This is a problem since V3.0 actually replaces V2.0.
So back to V2.0.9 again.
It’s also a question of timing accuracy and workflow convenience.
When using actual midi cables timing isn't an issue. With the VirusHC V2.0 plugin the correct patches always load whenever I open my projects, so workflow isn't a problem either anymore.
so far it seems to work well in Ableton for some reason when I switch the patch manually from the TI the sound will stop working until I push the audition buttons ( Shift & Audition) so Im trying to sort that out
Make a separate aux channel for your Virus. This way the sound will always stay on.
Looks good but still very much in Beta. How does it work for you?
On my Mac (Mac Mini M1) it crashes while opening in Logic Pro 10.7 and Cubase 10.5. It does work in Rosetta mode but crashes after a few minutes.
Funny, I stumbled upon an add on marktplaats (dutch version of ebay), where someone is claiming to have a workaround for working with the Virus on Big Sur doing everything over USB. He is providing an implementation of the solution for 95 euro. It’s a fair price. But I am curious what he does to make it work. And if it really works….
Interesting. I wonder if he actually means using the official Access Virus Plugin through USB or if he's just referring to MIDI via USB...
EDIT: he seems to have already removed the add from Marktplaats.nl. Did you get the chance to speak to this guy?
Hello everyone! Guys, how do you like this alternative?
Has anyone already tried this plugin?
This is my go-to Virus editor for over a year now. Works perfectly.
Heads up, I've gotten a report via the Facebook group I admin that the latest Windows updates break the drivers on PC making the Virus unfindable.
Doesn't work on Windows 10 for ARM either. Installation goes fine but the plugin and Virus Control software simple cannot find the Virus.