How are the filter envelopes and filter distortions though? I'm a hardstyle producer too and I use the hard / medium dist in the filtersection a lot. Gives a lot of character fast and great for making those ''The Pitcher''-esque sounds. It's great for Drum&Bass Reeses too. Does Navira sound as good?
A follow up to my post above. I bought Navira!
It's brilliant, no really, it's exceptionally good, maybe a little bright at times but nothing that the built in eq didn't sort out. And yes, it really can emulate the Virus hyper saw and filters, yeah I know what you're thinking, but it's true! I know for a fact because I've just spent £124 so you lot didn't have to
If Access don't provide the Mac community with updated drivers by around Christmas then my days with my old faithful Virus Ti2 DarkStar are over. I'll just sell it.
Fair enough. I would still keep my Virus TI2 no matter what because a lot of my projects contain the Virus TI. You never know when you might need those for remixes etc. I Invested in a Presonus Quantum2626 interface so I can at least still open those Virus parts. (minus the timing problem.) Besides, I don't think selling my TI2 will yield much anyway.. Might as well keep it.
I'm a little late to the party, but look at what I've came across: http://www.navira.io . They claim to have replicated the TI Hypersaw. They even advertise how cheap they are compared to the real deal.
Nice, I like how they blatantly mention the Virus TI in their advertisements. Have you personally tried this?
What's your intent? What do you want to acheive with that action? Put Access out of business? The only thing they are required to do is to change the text on their website. Would that make you guys happy?
Me not. I want proper TI integration on future Mac OS versions.
Clearly access can't or be bothered to deliver a working driver themselves so maybe a judge can force them to make the code open-source.
Also, simply removing text on the website does not erase that fact that they are still obliged by EU law to offer warranty and keep their marketing promises. If they can't keep those promises of having a working products on both Mac and Windows they should somehow compensate Mac users. Especially the ones still within 3 year warranty! (I am not one of those btw, but I still think that would be fair.)
This falls under EU customer protection law. We could start a class action lawsuit against Access Virus GmbH or/and Kemper GmbH. I am thinking of contact a lawyer and see what the option are, main reasons are: no communication and still false advertisement.
Been thinking about this as well. Not sure if it's worth it though. We'll at least need a pool of people to finance the lawyer costs etc..
Read my signature.
I see you're still on Mojave, that's great. Definitely don't upgrade if you don't have to.
With all due respect though, I did not open this thread to discus Windows.
Which is not true at all: It works with current day Windows systems. Regardless of the subject.
How is this not true? Marketing a product as working a certain way while it doesn't, is deception. Simple as that. Besides that, You've seen the subject of this thread right? It's great for Windows users that the TI software works, but it's not relevant for this specific thread.
You are aware that it works just fine with Windows?
That's beside the point. The fact the Virus is still being marketed as being compatible with Windows AND Mac, is misleading. All new Macs today are shipped with Catalina and cannot downgrade. How in earth should the average customer know it may not even work with their Mac? Heck, they even use the term ''lifetime free upgrades'', which we've seen is simply not true. You could argue that this actually falls under deception towards the consumer.
Hi, hope you're all safe and Corona free!!
Anyway, version 1.6 of Touch for Virus is being reviewed by Apple..... as we speek. It's true. It is....
It brings a new import feature for the .MID files used in the Access VST plugin for storing patches.
In other words, you can now easily import all the patches you have inside the plugin, to Touch for Virus.
That was the by far the most requested feature for my app, so I'm happy I was able to deliver this.
I also had to rebuild the whole interface to comply with new appstore guidelines.
This became a personal frustration" Apple will keep developers busy with things users will never notice, nor benefit.
Well, I think Access is dealing with this too.
I've update Audiokit, the framework my app uses for MIDI communication.
Are there any plans for making this an AU3 or VST plugin? Would be awesome if we could use this inside Cubasis and other iPadOS DAWs.
Is that via USB MIDI or actual MIDI In/Out?
I'm using USB Midi now as actual Midi In/Out is even worse. Both are very laggy but at least using USB Midi doesn't crash the V1.5 plugin as often. The plugin can still find it's uses in projects, as long as you export your sounds. VirusHC 1.5 and 2.0 are still very unreliable when it comes to saving patches.
I'm buying the Mystery Islands plugin
Good luck. I own it and version V2.0 (beta)is very unstable and crashes Logic and Cubase all the time. On version V1.5 saving patches is a nightmare. Sometimes it does save and sometimes it doesn't. You might as well give up on the idea of a TI like setup & go midi only..
For now, for me, it's a potato. Let me explain... Just starting it says not to use the USB port, you have to use the MIDI port, leaving you without the possibility of using the synthesizer in an external way, you are conditioned to use it with DAW.
I have a Nord Modular G2 and Nord Micromodular that have a patch editor, but, but, they have an exclusive MIDI port to connect with the computer, leaving another free MIDI port to do whatever you want, such as having a set of machines. The computer ONLY serves to deal with patches.
This is what I expected from this fudge, that the USB port would be used to handle the Patchs and with the MIDI port used with an external drumboxs and synth system.
Even though it tells you not to, clicking ''Virus TI Synth'' for Midi In and Midi Out works perfectly fine. using USB seems to be a bit more stable and faster than midi too.
Does anyone know how to save patches though? Loading INIT patches works fine but ATM I only know how to edit the 16 patches that are already loaded into my Virus...
I can say the jitter is better using the plug-in with audio via USB, by looking at the timing of audio events in my DAW.
The TI plug-in, with USB audio is usually pretty much bang on the start of the bar, for example. When using the external instruments mechanisms in Cubase and Ableton, it's more variable. Obviously, that's not possible with Catalina.
I can say. the latency is better, when not using the plug-in with USB audio, because the latency between hitting a note on my keyboard and the audio being triggered is noticeable when using the plug-in. It's improved when using live mode, but then the timing of other parts gets thrown out of whack in terms of timing/jitter.
Using MI, you're essentially using your Virus as an external instrument.
I don't currently use the plug-in to reload the settings. I use it purely as an editor. When the new version lands, hopefully that and the librarian functionality will be improved.
Purchased Mystery Islands VIrusHC and indeed you are right you are using your Virus as an external instrument, which is great! Midi timing is very tight!
I still can't find out how to save patches though.. Have you got any idea?
Does anyone know how to save patches in it?
IMO, there are plenty of software alternatives. Serum comes to mind first, and Massive / Massive X is probably even the better VA/Wavetable synth overall. And then there's FM8 to cover all your FM needs. However, if you are looking for hardware (with full DAW integration), nothing comes close to the Virus TI's features and flexibility: VA/Wavetable/FM Synth, pretty flexible Modulation Matrix, tons of effects, even offering decent Reverbs, 16 Part multi-timbral, lots of control knobs... the Kyra comes close, but it offers no DAW integration at all.
I legally own all of the products you mention except for Kyra but none of them are a replacement to the Virus in terms of ''sound''. Yes I know that is a vague term, but try making a lead as ''fat'' and wide in any of the mentioned plugins. The recipe for the Virus Sound seems simple: the Hypersaw Osc, the The unison that individually pans the voices, , and the especially filter envelopes and the distortion inside the filters. Like I said, Dune comes very close in terms of this functionality, -and in somer aspects it's better- yet it still doesn't sound like a Virus. That's not to sound it's impossible to almost recreate those sounds, but takes a lot more time. If there was a good alternative I would've jumped the bandwagon already.
I don't understand why people are saying that it doesn't work with Catalina? I'm using my TI2 with every DAW.
So you're not having latency issues as soon as you select another instrument channel in Logic Pro?
Sold my virus guys i ain't waiting any longer. I'm absolute gutted, worked so hard to buy thus been let down big time. i suggest you all do the same. Access as a company you are a piece of shit.
Just curious.. Have you found a good alternative for the Virus? (hardware or software) I've found Dune to come close but still not quite..
Is this software a stop gap for the incompatibly of the last TI installer (5.1.7.00) with Catalina? Does it serve the same purpose? Will it allow a TI Polar to work via USB?
No, you still need an audio / midi interface for this to work.