However, if none of the above I suspect a hardware failure. Could be a loose connection, but I’m not a synth technician.
Isn't Class Compliant depeding on hardware? The TI has USB 1.1, is that even possible?
I didn’t find history records of when class codes were introduced, but it seems they were available from USB 1.0 on. Also, certain classes of devices (hub, keyboards, mouse) rarely needed a custom driver to be installed to access their basic functionality.
So, yes, it should be possible to update the firmware for the Virus to become class compliant. But I guess it would require a major refactoring if not a complete rewrite of the USB connectivity.
ok i use lexicon hall reverb its good. how can i use the atomizer? can you help me
If you are using the Virus Control plugin in Cubase, you have to change the Input/Output mode of the VC TI to 2 out & 1 in. Then you can route the Cubase track you want to run through the Atomizer to the VC plugin.
There’s also at least one preset in the Virus ROM which puts it into effects mode. It’s all documented in the various TI set up and reference manuals. And I’m sure you find some threads on this forum as well.
I’m away from my studio for a week so I can’t look it all up for you. But I can assure you it does work if properly set up.
However, I was pretty unsatisfied with the limited capabilities of the Atomizer and would rather suggest a dedicated stutter plugin such as Polyverse I WISH which is way more flexible and capable.
It is possible. The question is why you would want to do that? Most would say that even the Cubase stock plugins are more flexible with better sound quality.
Now I read offers in my region about mac from 2012,
A 2018 Mac Mini which was still sold by Apple until 2022 does work pretty well as a music production system.
djenzar please read my comment.
djenzar you can use the PARAMETERS buttons to navigate between the pages for Common1/2, Common 2/2, Noise, Ring Modulator and Sub.
If you don't know how to navigate parameter pages on the hardware, you probably missed a lot of the Virus functionality. The function of the PARAMETERS buttons can also be configured in EDIT CONFIG System 5/6 to either switch through pages or switch through parameters.
AFAIR that context menu in the VC plugin allows to assign MIDI controllers to any of the parameters of the TI. But I never used that. Instead, I use Automation from within Cubase.
There’s a manual called Setting up Virus TI for Ableton Live. How to do Automation is described in chapter 5. I would start with that.
According to your experiments, could this feature maybe used to layer sounds? Within the Virus (assign the same MIDI channel to those Part constituting a layer sound, e.g. Parts 1-3 to channel 1, Parts 4-8 channel 2, etc.) or by controling other synths (e.g. layer with Moog on Channel 1, DX7 on channel 2 etc.).
Maybe it does make more sense like that?
However, all other descriptions always indicate that the setting influences how the Part reacts to incoming MIDI or which parameters are overridden.
Quote from Virus TI Manual (2006), p. 167-168Display MoreMIDI Channel
> 01 to 16: The MIDI channel to which this Part will respond.
[…]
Transpose
> -48 to +48 semitones: Part transposition. Adds/subtracts from the Single parameter of the same name (see “Transpose” on page 129).
[…]
Low Key
> C-2 to G8: The lowest MIDI note to which this Part will respond. If this is set higher than High Key (see below), the range between Low Key and High Key is disabled, and all notes outside this range are enabled.
High Key
> C-2 to G8: The highest MIDI note to which this Part will respond. If this is set lower than Low Key (see above), the range between Low Key and High Key is disabled, and all notes outside this range are enabled.
[…]
I would therefore not expect these settings to have any impact on outgoing MIDI.
Oh. Apologies!
This is interesting, and puzzling!
So, your quote is from the Virus TI manual from 2006 (for the TI1). The chapter Keyboard to MIDI is omitted in the Virus TI Reference from 2013 (for Virus TI2). That’s why I couldn’t find it.
Also, I couldn’t remember to ever have seen this option because I only used Multi Mode on the Desktop, not on the Darkstar. I had to power up the Darkstar and do some menu diving to find this option. It’s there for sure, but I have no clue what it’s supposed to do (the description in the manual doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense to me).
Further digging revealed that the whole chapter Keyboard, starting on page 155, is missing in the newer Virus TI Reference as well. It contains the following explanation of the Mode settings:
Quote from Virus TI Manual (2006), page 155Display MoreMode
This parameter can be set in Single mode, but it only applies to MULTI mode. See “Multi Mode Reference” on page 165.
CONFIGURATION REFERENCE
> One Channel: The keyboard transmits MIDI data (notes etc.) to the currently selected Part via the MIDI channel defined in that Part.
> Multi Channels: The keyboard transmits MIDI data (notes etc.) to all Parts, regardless of the assigned MIDI channel.
It seems that this is somehow related to the Keyboard to MIDI setting in Multi Mode.
What manual is this from?
ok thank you.
Did you get it to work?
Where's the misunderstanding?
Multi Mode Parameters configure how the synth engine Part reacts to incoming MIDI.
You want to configure how the internal keyboard sends outgoing MIDI.
For each Part in the VC plugin, there’s are two buttons labeled Load and Save. Click Save an the menu in my screenshot appears.
You have to create one first!
I would look forward to an updated driver so we can resume using the TI functionality on newer Macs. Getting our hopes up for a TI3 is a recipe for disappointment.
Getting your hopes up for product updates which don’t generate any income for the company is a recipe for disappointment as well.
Why do you think we’re already waiting for five years? Because it’s so difficult?
it clearly was also meant to be used as a MIDI controller since it lets you disable control of the internal sound engine on a per-part basis.
I think this is where the misunderstanding happens: You do not disable the control of the sound engine but the engine itself. The Part is deactivated. This is about incoming MIDI and works identically on the desktop version. AFAIK, outgoing MIDI from the keyboard is not affected at all, not even the MIDI channel, except by the global keyboard parameters.
If you don’t need standalone MIDI routing for live performance, then it’s probably easier to achieve within your DAW.
I think you misunderstood Multi Mode. Parts are not keyboard „splits“ like on MIDI master keyboards.
The Virus TI is primarily a multi timbral synth engine with 16 Parts. Each of these Parts can be configured to only react to a certain range of MIDI notes (by channel and pitch range) and the events transmitted to the Part’s synth engine can be transposed (e.g. to compensate the octave range of the source MIDI events). There are more parameters for the Parts which obviously relate to the synth engine: Detune, Panorama, Voice Priority, Volume.
This works identically on the keyboard and desktop versions of the Virus TI.
Which is why I firmly believe a class compatible USB over MIDI driver is essential for this. I advocated for it in the past and I will advocate for it in the future.
Class compatible MIDI and Audio. Like the Elektron boxes working with Overbridge.
