you really wouldn't like to pay for 80 analogue filter boards in a virus ti. we have no intention to go down this road.
best, marc
OK, I hear you, so how about releasing a new synthesizer with 16 voices AND analog filters? 
Oh and please change that ridiculous name "Virus" to something more appropriate. There are hundreds of people who died of a recent virus, it's not funny at all. 
Alles anzeigenYou are entitled to you preference, however as this is my field of research - i will say with little doubt, there is nothing about analgue filters that cannot be modelled - they just aren't that complex. True enough linear techniques aren't the way to go about modelling them, but for a long time (and to a certain extent, now) linear techniques have been all that was available in an affordable system or any system at all.
But I'm quite happy for the industry to have their doubts - and i know that a lot of the industry have their interests lying in people believeing true analogue tones are the special realm of analogue circuitry - this is fine. It is fine because when it is finally achieved (and im sure this will happen gradually over a series of generations) the competition will be few and far between...
Delay, phaser and chorus effects have already been well covered as linear techniques can easily model these (mainly because they use sampling techniques anyway) - though im sure they can be adorned with more modern modelling to enrich the tonality.
I'm sure you aren't to be convinced, anyway, so I'll cease my efforts in the forum, but just remember for later on...
I told you so...
Yes, you are right, I am not convinced. And guess what, this is a field I researched too (among others).
Alles anzeigenWell a lot of people have a distorted view on what 'true analogue' sounds like - to the point where they've said something that is actually analogue is not 'true analogue' without realising...
True analogue is a myth - just like the myth that vinyl sounds better (true, vinyl has a unique quality that some people prefer - which could and has been faked without too much trouble).
Just as soon as the technology improves - and I believe that the Virus is one of the few modern synths that can pull it off convincingly at the moment - mimicking analogue filters will be easy (and i mean mimicking in as much as one 'such and such' filter sounds like another of the same...).
Besides all that, i much prefer to have an imperfect filter in digital, where i can have endless instances of it, to a single analogue filter which i had to pay through the nose for...
I have a very good understanding on the differences between digital and analog filters. Moreover, I have scientific papers to prove that emulations of x and y analog filters always suffer, to the degree of their respective programmers' capability. Access' attempt regarding the Minimoog filter is to be applauded but I am truly sorry if one thinks that they will dial "minimoog" and they will have it in an instant. Same with Arturia. So instead of trying to mimic what other manufacturers / designers have been doing and living with the idea that it will never be the same, maybe it would be a good idea for Access to implement an analog filter. Who knows, maybe they can come with a cool nice design. Waldorf did it, I don't see why Access can't. So, I am sorry, but analog is definitely not a myth. Hype maybe, expensive maybe, but myth?
You may think that the Virus is capable of producing *certain* analog timbres convincingly. So do I, but people, programmers and designers tend to focus too much on technology and loose sight of how their ever-advancing superiority actually affects sound per se. So, contrary to you, I would rather have 16, 8 or even 1 voice of unique analog, rather than 400 voices of digital, especially when released in a continuous barrage of updates and repackages.
You'd be surprised just how 'analoge' the virus's filters can sound if you put your mind to it...
I don't think they sound analog - good digital yes, analog no.
Anyway, the answer is pretty much a "no" but that's ok. I mean there are several other awesome machines to buy.
Hi all,
I was wondering if Access will ever consider implementing real analog filters. After repackaging their synths for quite some time and offering some admittedly good stuff, it seems the right thing to do. I am sure that would be a really good upgrade and lots of people would welcome it.
Regards,
Yannis
Hi all,
I was wondering if Access will ever consider implementing real analog filters. After repackaging their synths for quite some time and offering some admittedly good stuff, it seems the right thing to do. I am sure that would be a really good upgrade and lots of people would welcome it.
Regards,
Yannis
