Not long now 'til the Anniversary of Marc's Oct 8th 2019 announcement on Catalina incompatibility!
I can have the USB port to control the presets (MacBook Pro with VirusHC) and the two MIDI ports to be connected to other hardware, Toraiz Squid, Analog Rytm MKII, Nord Modular, MiniBrute, etc, without depending on a computer?
This would really be the ideal.
You can certainly control presets on USB and use the MIDI ports to send and receive to/from external devices. However, if you have USB connected, the Virus *synth* engine won't receive MIDI on the 5 pin DIN MIDI input. In that case, you have to send MIDI notes etc. to the Virus via USB.
That is a shame indeed.
For now, for me, it's a potato. Let me explain... Just starting it says not to use the USB port, you have to use the MIDI port, leaving you without the possibility of using the synthesizer in an external way, you are conditioned to use it with DAW.
I have a Nord Modular G2 and Nord Micromodular that have a patch editor, but, but, they have an exclusive MIDI port to connect with the computer, leaving another free MIDI port to do whatever you want, such as having a set of machines. The computer ONLY serves to deal with patches.
This is what I expected from this fudge, that the USB port would be used to handle the Patchs and with the MIDI port used with an external drumboxs and synth system.
I use the USB port for everything and it works fine. The limitation is on the Virus hardware end, in that when you have USB connected, it disables its own MIDI ports.
I've raised this limitation several times on this forum.
I don't understand why people are saying that it doesn't work with Catalina? I'm using my TI2 with every DAW.
No USB audio via the plug-in though, which is almost the whole point of the plug-in.
Got it! Seems to be working OK.
Top left says that the license needs reloading though. Any idea what to do about that?
It's kinda laughable now.
I've almost retired my Virus Ti. Very rarely turn it on now. Used to be my main work-horse.
I’m not using USB when using HCvirus so it can’t be related to USB midi.. I also don’t know how you can say the latency is better, it’s exactly the same as with the plugin using the analog outputs..
And may I ask how you are managing patches in your songs? Can you save a song with HCvirus in it and have it load it up the song’s patches automatically when opening?
I can say the jitter is better using the plug-in with audio via USB, by looking at the timing of audio events in my DAW.
The TI plug-in, with USB audio is usually pretty much bang on the start of the bar, for example. When using the external instruments mechanisms in Cubase and Ableton, it's more variable. Obviously, that's not possible with Catalina.
I can say. the latency is better, when not using the plug-in with USB audio, because the latency between hitting a note on my keyboard and the audio being triggered is noticeable when using the plug-in. It's improved when using live mode, but then the timing of other parts gets thrown out of whack in terms of timing/jitter.
Using MI, you're essentially using your Virus as an external instrument.
I don't currently use the plug-in to reload the settings. I use it purely as an editor. When the new version lands, hopefully that and the librarian functionality will be improved.
Mystery Islands Music is supposed to released a new Virus editor soon.
That wouldn't solve Access' "total integration" fail, but I'll give it a try for sure as soon as it's available to check timing and stability issues skittb123 mentioned.
Many thanks JetStarfire for this info
It kinda works as-is, but it's a bit buggy. What I really want from it, is the capability to load from .mid bank files. I have a load of presets I've worked on over the years, which are saved on my Mac.
If the plug-in version works too, that will be great.
serious question: are there ANY plans or further developments for Ti to at least make work again as it's supposed to? We'll be coming up to almost a year now and still no solution. Has R&D stopped due to Covid19?
The lack of comms. from Access is really not good. I've completely given up with USB audio though. Adds too much latency. All I want, is an editor! Not the first time I've said it, just on this thread.
The jitter isn't perfect, or as good as the plug-in - but it's certainly not audible. ...and it may be more related to USB MIDI jitter.
The huge benefit though, is latency. It's negligible if your interface supports low latency.
Ah yeah. That's a complete non-starter. Not a method which works at all.
Yes, I'm on Catalina. Mystery Islands isn't *officially* compatible yet, but I'm using it without problems.
I'm not seeing anything like that. How is everything connected Virus-wise?
I'm running my Ti, connected via USB to a Mac. Then SPDIF to an RME Multiface. Also using Mystery Islands editor.
There is some minor jitter, but nothing like 200ms.
I think I'm pretty-much done with USB audio now anyhow. Too many stability and latency issues. I just want a good editor for the Virus. Waiting for Mystery Islands to finish the update for Catalina.
Mojave is the last working platform. We're all waiting for Catalina drivers...
I'm not a coder myself but from what I've gathered is that because the Virus TI chips are very old, they only support low level ''machine'' code.
Since most modern chipsets support higher level code languages like C++ It's probably very hard to find an old school programmers that can do low level coding, and if there are, they're probably quite expensive. So maybe Access isn't willing to spend as much, but publicly they don't want to burn the bridge just yet since that will hurt the sales.
The driver is for the Mac side, not the TI side.
For info (since it's come up several times now), Elektron's Overbridge v2 is now out of beta. There's now an official release. So, it's no longer permanently in beta.