TIOS 3.3.0.00 on Snow Leopard - Automation Problems in Live 8.0.5

  • I am running Ableton Live 8.0.5 on OS X 10.6.1 using a Virus TI Desktop with TIOS 3.3.0.00. I am finding that when I have patches loaded into the Virus, there are various parameters for which I am unable to view the right click menu to add or remove the parameter from the automation menu. Examples of this vary; in a production I was playing with earlier today, in synth part 1 I am unable to get a menu when I right click LFO1 Rate or LFO3 Rate, but the LFO2 Rate menu comes up when right clicked. On synth part 3, I can't get the right click menu to appear for LFO1 Rate or LFO2 Rate, but LFO3 Rate comes up fine. Most of the LFO modulation banks were affected by this problem for parts 1-4.


    The ability to get the automation menu for various parameters is one big problem, but I am also plagued with a seemingly different critical issue:


    I only have one parameter listed in Ableton's automated parameters list for the Virus TI plugin channel whether I am looking at the envelope view of a midi clip in Session mode or the whole channel's automation lane in Arrangement mode. This parameter is [1] Filter1 Cutoff when the plugin loads. If I right click [1] Filter1 Cutoff in the TI plugin and choose 'Remove from automation parameters', the single item in the parameter list changes to 'Unassigned' and the next parameter that I right click and choose 'Automate' will populate that spot; however, just one value is the most I ever see in this list. I am under the impression that there should automatically be many parameters in the automated parameter list on plugin load, such as the Soft Knobs, Filter Cutoff and Resonance for each part, but I can't ever get these to show up, much less am I able to add my own parameters to this list.


    I greatly appreciate any insight to this issue. The Virus is unusable in its current state and I'm not crazy about the concept of rolling back to Leopard.

  • Hi Marc, not yet. I was hoping to determine first if any other users are affected by this issue. I was also unsure about contacting support concerning a Public Beta release.


    Last night I also began the process of moving all my production software over to my PC platform to see if I have the same issues there. I also tried running the VST on my Macbook instead of the AU, but I had the same issues.

  • Updates:


    - I got everything installed on my Windows 7 x64 PC, and the problems are identical. After loading a patch, various controls (most of them!) I am unable to bring up the right click menu to add the parameter to automation.


    - I rolled back to Ableton Live v8.04 on my PC and the problem persists.


    - On my Mac, I rolled back to TIOS 3.2.0.07 and the problem persists.


    Can someone please confirm that you should be able to automate parameters such as those under the 'LFO Modulation 1' bank on the LFO page, and the velocity and keyfollow knobs on the filter page? I feel like I am taking crazy pills. I can right click the envelope amount and resonance knobs on the filter page just fine.